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That number at the end of the pitchers grade is the BF (Batters Faced) Rating. that youve added, in most cases, at least two more plate appearances.

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:).

Its always been that way and is just one of the quirks of the system.

But what it comes down to is APBA basic baseball is just that, basic.

"Add" adds the selected player and year to the list. etc.).

I think that Bills point about variety is a key one.

This difference is made up with the bad HR ratings (L and M) causing more home runs than the good HR ratings (G and H) take away. Save my name, email, and site URL in my browser for next time I post a comment. However, once the starting pitcher allows an earned run, the Starting Pitcher Fatigue Chart is activated. Youre basically, giving one rating to the pitchers based upon ERA whereas it should be based upon hits/ip.

If you have two pitchers with the same ERA and the same innings, but one of them will receive a Z and the other will receive a W, the W pitcher will get the higher grade.

~g~ I figure my opinion is worth a whole nickel. The League ERA will be the average of the two ERA's in Steps 1 and 2

It was sometime around 1990 or so when they put them on the same track, but APBA really ought to release information like that.

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Favorite Card Friday: Jacque Plante 1970-71, IAL action: Hitmen pick off my Thunderchickens, APBA Baseball Card 12 List and Publication Data, MakoJo Software Editors and Utilities for APBA Games. Your email address will not be published. in response to your stat inputs. For example, you might have two pitchers who each allowed 8.9 K/9 but one of them allowed 1.8 HR/9 and the other was only 0.5 HR/9. The yield? The former ended up with a grade maybe 4-5 points lower.

Your browser does not seem to support JavaScript. Well, he gave up two hits that drove home a couple runs that werent charged to him.

APBA - Between the Lines - Pitching Grade Calculator Online - Does anybody know if this site has moved. It has allowed me to do some analysis over time and help me provide some guidance when creating my dynasty teams from the Murderer's Row Yankees to the Big Red Machine to the Braves of the 1990's.

When APBA came out in 1951, the concept of the grade was added, so now pitchers fell into six classes: A&C, A&B, A, B, C and D. The grade was pretty much [], In the introduction, I went over what the heck this project is all about. And finally, is there a place players can visit to keep current of APBA playing rules updates (like this SPFC)? With 38 starts, he's going to be above .500, and it would be easy for him to get 20 wins. Now the BG grade was slightly off. seventeen

I found this system especially beneficial in tournaments where the temptation is to use the regular starting lineup every game although it is rare that an entire lineup is healthy or available for a particular game.

In these APBA boards, on all extra base hits (EBH) vs. B or better pitchers, you re-roll to see if the EBH is converted to a single (and if so, randomly choose the single using the "Single" chart in the file). For example, a guy with limited range in the outfield but who never makes an error (like a Ryan Braun for example) might be a 3 in the Advanced version but a 2 in the Basic version.

Refining Pitching Grades APBA's basic game has three main grades: B, C, D. "A" pitchers are less than 5% of the population, and A&C and A&B are rare.

The chart above reflects the composite average for 69 sample points (AL and NL each for about 35 seasons). grade by more than 2 MG points either way. That conversion assumes a more modern 2B to HR ratio. Me? above. "Card font" will change the font the card display uses.

The changes have no significant impact on a pitcher's ERA or on batter's statistics. In the Advanced version, they receive a 1-5 rating to reflect their range and an ADDITIONAL number that reflects how often they commit errors. The pitcher could have a W/L record of 25-4 and still be a B if thats

If we were to take on the Fatigue system, we would have to re-think how we impose limits. according to the grade of the pitcher.

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That is why I was so glad that 5.75 allows complete editing.

Alan, firmly aware, that you can't normalize baseball pitching grades from 1920 through the 2000's. As an example, I took the data from above, and plotted it on both an per 9 IP and per PA/36 basis: Notice how the BB/36 PA stays relatively constant: it does go up a slight bit as the opportunities where the Z comes into play goes down a bit since theres less runners on with better pitchers, while the BB/9 IP slowly declines.

For example, a for a 2b-6, a roll of 1 = column 1, 2 = column 2, and 3-6 = column 3. APBA 101: Starting Pitching Fatigue Chart. Before each game, the manager of each pitcher rolls two dice (in the case of a solo game, the player rolls for both pitchers) then refer to this chart: Add the two dice and refer to the above chart. I realize thats a one game example but you get my point. That and you could get an A grade for 20 wins and a 4+ ERA. interesting chart - I, unlike some, think wins and winning % should be a significant factor in determining grade.

The effect of all of these changes is to equalize the EBH to single ratios for all pitching grades (which itself may not be a valid assumption -- it could be that better pitchers actually allow less EBH to singles than worse pitchers -- but I think equalizing the results is at minimum a significant step in the right direction).

But that is the beauty of APBA. 1-4, 5-9, 10-14. .hide-if-no-js { This section will deal with the valuation of those numbers that the hitter controls to some extent: hits, walks and hit by pitch. Same concept for walks.

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While theres a difference between pitching in Oakland and pitching in Wrigley Field, if ERA is really a product of fielding ability, DPs, arms and bullpens, how come different starters on the same team (who pitch in front of the same fielders and in the same parks) often have very different ERAs?

APBA Master Game Starting Pitching Grades Formula Innings Pitched ERA (Below) W-L (Misc), Grade 8 100-139 3.30 2x as many wins as losses 140-189 3.75 & a winning record 190-239 4.10 240 & above 4.50 & win 15 games, Grade 9 100-139 3.20 2x as many wins as losses 140-189 3.50 with more wins than losses 190 & above 3.75, Grade 10 100-149 3.10 150-189 3.40 190 & above 3.60 or win 15 games &/or .700% & ERA < 4.00, Grade 11 100-149 3.00 or have a .700% & ERA < 3.20 150-189 3.30 or win 15 games & ERA < 3.60 190 & above 3.50 or win 15 games & .575% & ERA < 4.10, Grade 12 100-159 2.90 160-189 3.20 with a winning record 190-239 3.40 or win 15 games with .600% & ERA < 3.75 240 & above 3.50 or win 18 games with a .550% & ERA < 4.00 Grade 13 100-159 2.80 160-189 3.00 190 & above 3.10 or win 18 games with .700% & ERA < 3.50, Grade 14 100-169 2.70 170-189 2.90 190 & above 3.00 or 20 wins with .725% & ERA < 3.50, Grade 15 100-169 2.60 170-189 2.80 190-239 3.00 or 20 wins with .725% & ERA < 3.30 240 & above 3.20 or 23 wins with .650% & ERA < 3.40, Grade 16 170-189 2.40 190-249 2.60 250 & above 2.75 or 23 wins with .650% & ERA < 3.25, Grade 17 170-189 2.20 190- 249 2.50 250 & above 2.60 or 20 wins with .675% & ERA < 2.90, Grade 18 190-249 2.30 250 & above 2.40 or 24 wins with .750% & ERA < 3.00, Grade19 190-249 2.20 250-274 2.25 or 25 wins 275 & above 2.35 or 25 wins with .775% & ERA< 2.45, Grade 20 190-250 2.10 251 & above 2.20 or 25 wins *also any pitcher who wins 27 games or more w/ an ERA < 2.60.

Its a relatively new feature rolled out by APBA.

In Bob Gibsons 1968 card above, he has a 34 BFR which is very high. You can an innovation based on the current scale, do you make adjustments when using

I believe that Diamond Mind, the computer version, is a far superior simulation. I was wanting to take a look but the connection seems to be broken .

Similar to the home run rating, the bad rating (W) has more impact than the good rating (Z). Pitcher Fatigue When the pitcher has faced the # of batters indicated by his BF factor, he is subject to downgrade starting with the next batter as follows: - With the first batter that reaches base other than by error after he reaches his BF factor, he is downgraded one grade. With a player selected, hitting the "" button will show that player's card for the next year.

? most of it is just because of how many batters each faces.

I know that in the Master Game, an A&C pitcher had a grade of either 24 or 27 (18 for A, 6 to 9 for C I think).

I understand overlaps and scrambling in the high grades (A&B versus A&C).

Say, a starter may be rated A for the first three innings and then downgraded to a C for innings 4-6? I do have a question (its been a number of years since I last ordered a season) Maddux has some sort of rating (30).

Mottes ERA was so great because he had a tendency to give up the home run ball.

Example?

How do you rate the pitchers? Q. what ever stats you desire. The higher adjustments should be rarer.

Board sets contain a Master Game Pitching Grade Conversion Chart. However, for someone to play the master game of APBA, hed have to be more of a student of the game. At some recent point, APBA has changed that philosophy and started using plate appearance as the denominator.

A discussion on APBA's pitcher grading system Thomas Nelshoppen March 2, 2013 March 2, 2013 Resources In the past few days, reader Bill Ferguson and I have been discussing the finer aspects of APBA's methods of grading pitchers via email. Different seasons can upset a standard formula. The reason for the "drop" between 11-13 and 6-10 is the fact that on Bases Empty on the APBA board theres a 60 point drop in batting average as we exclude #9 from being a hit. I subtract 9 from the BF if he pitched in the previous game or 6 if he pitched 2 days ago.

There are no subsequent reductions after pitching grade becomes a D grade.

A pitcher's card has a grade (A, B, C, or D) for hisout-getting ability and also perhaps letters for his strikeout ability (X and/or Y if he strikes out a lot of batters) and control (W for Wild and Z for goodcontrol). The only reason Boggs has a higher rating is ERA.

(for this rule, both A&B and A&C are initially downgraded to A).

I see others with 26, 28. Do you think theres a chance that, instead of a fatigue chart, we would ever get pitching grades by innings or blocks of innings? His Pythag comes out to 20-point-something. It will replicate pretty well a teams performance over a season.

My second grade for all pitchers adds some variety and closes the gap between the undergraded pitchers and the overgraded pitchers, which is a lot closer (except for Verlander and people like that) to real life. As a result, older cards will not have the BF rating on pitchers cards.

Weve broached this topic before, I believe.

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Thats why theres kind of a problem in giving a Basic rating based purely on H/9.

Also, please consider that the Starting Pitcher Fatigue Chart system is relatively new. Did you use it to see how closely you could rate pitchers in a season or two to the actual ratings? Whats that have to do with the

So I use this chart which I borrowed from some one who had posted it somewhere. Note that I think that in the Basic game, for example, those guys might be a C and B pitcher, respectively.

Six years later, the subratings were added: 3 for control and 4 for strikeouts.

(and there are many definitions of league, by the way).

I get all my stats from the most excellent folks at Sports Reference. The scale remains consistent You act as if the pitcher is just an innocent bystander and his ERA is only determined by those outside influences.

Very interesting data.

The way the MG grade was The rules do state that these rules do NOT override the grade advancement rules.

Select a year from the season dropdown menu and then

The highest BFR on my current league team is Eduardo Rodriguez 25. in response to your stat inputs.

I play both.

The box below the player list is your Selected Players list.

This is one reason a no-hitter is more likely in APBA (by a grade B or better pitcher) than in real life.

Most APBA players, if they had never seen the

The flip worked as well; an L24 pitcher would roll on all doubles, and a low roll would turn the 2b into a HR.

Randomizing Unusual Plays & Errors For any potential unusual play (results 23, 36-41) or error (15-21), I use the third die and applicable chart at the bottom of the bases empty board to randomize these results, reading the result from the original column indicated on the batter card.

League ERA (from Step 1) for the Individual League ERA.

In this part, I examine the error and rare play numbers. The intent of the Basic game (Master game too) is to replay a season. one.

If the pitcher pitched in both Was Boggs that much a better pitcher?

So the basic formula I came up with to determine the R/36 PA variance away from the mean is listed below. If you want specificity all you have to do is look at the 2B HR ratio, compute the 2B/HR ratios on the chart, and then adjust them to what you want. They may be including an insert with details though.

Version 5.7.1 adds hard-coded 2022 season data Version 5.7 adds Previous and Next year controls (to the right and the left of the year selector). Like it or not, its the standard MLB and the sports media uses to judge the pitchers (though they are catching up in recent years).

I personally focus on individual achievement rather than team, although I am strictly a replayer. G Pitcher; roll 11-26, homerun is changed to you can't normalize baseball pitching grades from 1920 through the 2000's.

Another (master game) league I was in for a number of years tried to remedy this with its own system. Sounds great, right? Compare those grades to get an approximate range of the ERA's for each letter grade.

1. Fellow players, I have read articles on the forum about the process of determining pitching grades, and engaged in some research and developed a guide many years ago.

Individualizing Fielding These boards use individual fielder ratings and a fielding column finder chart (modified from the master charts) whenever a ( ) with a fielder position in it (e.g., (1B)) is on the left of the chart. Price pitched less but certainly dominated while he was in there bt who was more valuable to their teamjust some thoughts:)

Hi guys, Its that point of view that I base my idea. As I noted above, I do sympathize with Bill and know hes not the only APBA fan who feels that pitchers grades should not be based on ERA or wins. This hardly justifies the difference in rating from 6 to 11. what ever stats you desire.

This is the strategy with all average players coming up to bat.

Hed have to be a detailed person. It's just run support. as it adds more plate appearances to the game and the effects of the (W) vary Calculate BF adjusted Add Pitchers BF rating and the resulting adjustment to BFR from above.

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If (and when) Boggs got into trouble he more or less got bailed out by Freeman or Rzepcysnski.

Each batter has two 9s so that about 60 points on the BA using about 30 to 31 ABs.

On a final note, here are the percentages for each grade in the 2012 set and their subrating breakdowns.

Case in point, I follow college baseball, in particular the U of Illinois. Just my opinion. Essentially, the SPFC is a feature to be used in the APBA Basic Baseball to add some realism when it comes to starting pitching durability. The formula must flex with the numbers.

Because it wouldnt take into account HR/9. With a 10 on rst, it is borderline.

When you add the (W), you create

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We see the same effects with hits and doubles, although hits stops its descent later, but has the same crater and uptick pattern. Once you have each pitchers BF Adjusted for the game, play your game normally keeping track of the number of batters faced for each pitcher.

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conversion was changed because somebody, after 25 years or so, realized they innovations that were created based on the old scheme with cards that were The mean comes out to a reduction of about 0.639 or just a little less than 2/3 of a batter per game.

regrading by using the same formula from year to year is just educated "guess work". Instructions For Using Table: Obtain pitcher's Actual ERA If the League ERAfor the corresponding major league season was lower than 3.70, obtain the number of points that it was lower than 3.70 and add that number to the pitcher's ERA Obtain the ERA for the individual league the pitcher pitched in

= "Save" saves the Selected Players list. And they scored even more for Lefty.

Pitchers' ratings are based upon the league (AL or NL) they pitched in real baseball.

Variety.

I think APBAs pitching grades should probably work similarly. I then did the same thing, this time concentrating on the pitching grades. L Pitcher; roll 11-22, double is changed to Further, APBA grades pitchers based partially on Wins and Innings Pitched, two statistics that I do not believe replicate a pitchers true performance (wins are a team statistic and reflect a teams ability to score runs and play defense, two factors outside a pitchers control). Ive played thousands and thousands of games with each and can honestly say I believe that there is no perfect sim. Although it is grade-dependent, it basically is a bonus bump on your grade, while a W is probably worth up to a penalty of 4 points in the mid range and 2 at the extremes.

I think a big part of it is that the hitters cards drive the game and that they have many ratings and 600 tries in a season and 10,000 or more tries in a long career.

that the (W) displaces a double play (although there is a slight negative value You in a weird way need to draft guys that do not produce but can eat up innings not the way I like to play. The goal in all cases should be to accurately replicate a pitchers ERA.

I know it sounds simple but quite honestly, if you poll your casual baseball fan, most probably wont know what is a good WHIP and was isnt. Put in the simplest of terms, Boggs of StL has a 17 rating.

It has been around for four or five years. There were no additional control or strikeout subratings, but additional subratings were added for homers, wild pitches, balks, hit by pitch and holding runners.

Theres no doubt that when you convert a Master Game Grade 5 to the Basic Game that he becomes better than a 9(W) converted.

If the result is a hit, you then check the "B" or "C" column for final play result.

Thanks for this article. relative to the newer sets (i.e. MAXIMUM BF: When maximum BF reached, pitcher automatically downgraded 2 grades: Starters: BF+10 Relievers: BF+5 To calculate BF factors, use this formula: (IP x 3 + H + BB) / GS, and round down. As starting pitchers reach a certain point in a game, their effectiveness lessens.

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What this means is that there is often a player who, for example, is a 2 in the Basic version but a 3 in the Advanced. The point I am attempting to make is that APBA like the other makers seeks to produce a game that can be used to replay a season. highest numbered double on the board.

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Gonna have to tinker with that one. For this purpose I assume an average pitcher will get an 8 rating.

I agree with his revision strategy. When I wrote 8.9 K/9 above it should have read 8.9 H/9.

In the Basic game, I would say the guy who allowed fewer HR/9 should receive a better grade than the guy who allowed more HR/9.

appearances to get you to 27 outs (ERA is based on 27 outs).

The APBA website did include an announcement at one point but to my knowledge, there isnt a one-stop page with all updates.

For instance, if the league averages three

This wigged out guys who didnt get the concept. The strikeout letters proved to be of little change to the results.

games he won. For example, take two pitchers who both BARELY receive an X rating based on their identical K/9 stat.

Conversely, if you use Its been very interesting and we thought we would share some snippets of our conversation to open it up to the larger community since I know there are others who share similar feelings when it comes to pitchers grades.

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New to Delphi Forums? Essentially, the SPFC is a feature to be used in the APBA Basic Baseball to add some realism when it comes to starting pitching durability. issued recently?

When grading an entire season, I will tailor the chart above such that the total grade distribution assigned by APBA is not significantly changed (e.g., there are still roughly the same number of As, Bs, Cs, and Ds, those grades are merely re-distributed to the right pitchers). Here are the charts we use to enhance our APBA Master Game play. Im not saying Price didnt have a great season & didnt deserve to win but Verlander pitched in war more innings than Price, so what happened in gms after Price left the game.my point is Verlander was in gms longer & more opportunities to give up runs & hits.

Is the SPFC explained in the Basic Manual.

One other point against using ERA as the basis is relievers. Subtracting Everybodys reads the rants of several guys on ABTL regarding the undue influence of the (W) on the ERA of pitchers.